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Patience and Depth (feat. David Talks Broncos)

Kelly & Ty Season 7 Episode 23

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The Denver Broncos have had a rather quiet offseason. With the amount of success they had during the previous season, Sean Payton and crew decide to stand pat minus a few moves. What does the upcoming season look like?

Kelly and Ty are joined by David (@DavidTalksBuffs) from David Talks Broncos to go over the Jaylen Waddle trade, recap the Broncos draft, and take a look at the recently released schedule.

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SPEAKER_00

Welcome to L Top, providing Broadcoat country with their takes and analysis from coast to coast. So let's run it, wrap up, protect your chains, and make sure your Broadcoat coverage isn't.

SPEAKER_03

Hello, listeners, and welcome back to the Incomplete podcast. Where your coast to coast hosts provides you with news, coverage, and opinions of all things Denver Broncos, plus anything else that's on our minds. I am Ty, and I'm joined by my wonderful co-host and best friend Kelly. It has been a long time since we were last here. With the Broncos going getting to the AFC Championship game, I would have thought they would have made a lot of moves, but they mostly stayed pat. The patience of Broncos Country was tested all winter and into spring.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, so it's a testament that Sean is gonna roll the dice with who he has. And you know, to be fair, we gave Sean Payton a lot of slack when he's like, I can take this team to the Super Bowl. And we were like, really? This team? Are you sure? And you know, I I think we would have made it if if Bo hadn't if the refs knew how to call a holding in the end zone. Um and unfortunately Bo didn't go down. So him kind of staying the course and staying with this personnel really speaks to how much he believes that.

SPEAKER_03

Absolutely. I think it shows a lot of I I I want to say I think I'm gonna use the word trust here. That he that he's got the team that he needs. It's just like a few couple pieces that need to be adjust uh, we'll call it adjusted, not exactly fixed.

SPEAKER_02

But the picture's a little crooked. We gotta, you know, straighten up the frame.

SPEAKER_03

Yep, gotta straighten out the frame just a little bit. Um, but before we do recap everything that has happened, with this being our off-season episode, not to mention the finale of season seven. And it was such a great one. We do have a special guest to help break it all down. He is the host of two podcasts covering Colorado Sports, a lifelong Broncos fan and very knowledgeable of the Broncos. One podcaster I saw last night on Twitter says he is very dreamy. Incomplete listeners and viewers, we like to welcome David to the podcast.

SPEAKER_05

Thanks for having me, guys. I'm excited to be here. Thank you.

SPEAKER_02

We're so happy you're here.

SPEAKER_03

We are so very happy you're here. Um, my understanding is that with the Broncos, you got started not too long ago and you've had quite a bit of um following.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, who would have thought? You know, uh this has kind of been a childhood dream, I guess, that I've been like trying to get back in touch with. I had a YouTube channel called Bronco Boy when I was like 14 or 15 years old, right when uh Josh McDaniels took over. I was doing these videos on like trying to convince myself that Kyle Orton was gonna be a good quarterback. That channel didn't last very long. So after I started getting into YouTube a little bit, you know, I'm like, I need to see if I can do this for real. And uh it's it's been fun, it's been fun meeting a lot of Broncos fans all over the country. It's it's made my experience as a fan so much more rich. So um I love connecting with you guys, and I I can't wait to talk about the team.

SPEAKER_03

We're excited to have you. I'm curious to hear about all that has happened with the team and your thoughts on it. And of course, Kelly and I have talked a little bit here and there, so I'm very curious to hear your in-depth and analysis on all of it.

SPEAKER_05

Oh man, well, where to start? It's probably been one of the weirdest offseasons, I feel like we've had uh definitely, you know, a broken ankle away from the Super Bowl, right? Maybe a shot put pass away from the Super Bowl.

SPEAKER_02

Uh away from the Super Bowl.

SPEAKER_05

Right, just gonna say that. All these things, you know, it was uh, I I think some of us, including myself, you know, I was expecting like a ton of moves. But looking back, the most important thing was that we got another big time wide receiver. So we got that in Jalen Waddell, and uh, you know, we'll see. I think that they feel like they were so close. So Sean Payton's saying, hey, we'll run it back with what I think 20 out of our 22 starters or something close like that. And hopefully we can have a little bit more depth behind everything, and and that will be what puts us over the top. But if we don't win the Super Bowl this year, I I think that there will be some more changes rather than seeing you know one free agent signing uh this year. It's crazy that Tyson Anderson is our only free agent signing, and he might not like he's coming in to compete for a roster spot at the safety position. So we could be in a world in which really our just our new players were the you know six or seven players, I think that we drafted, and then uh Jalen Waddle, and that's about it. Pretty weird off season, very weird indeed.

SPEAKER_03

Which speaking of Jalen Waddle, let's just jump right into it. So perhaps so when free agency started, um they well, there was like the tampering period, so day one tampering period, nothing happens. They do the tampering period, nothing happens. The offseason starts, still nothing. I think we went almost a week without anything happening, minus the re-signing, and then all of a sudden, one random I think it was a Tuesday, Tuesday afternoon, an alert comes up. The Broncos have traded for Dolphins wide receiver Jalen Waddell for and they also got a fourth round pick out of it. In exchange, we gave up uh our first round pick this year, our third round pick this year, and our fourth round pick this year as well. It was pretty much basically a swap of fourth rounders. Um so I have to ask, let's go around the room. When we heard that Jalen Waddell was gonna be a Denver Bronco, what were our first reactions?

SPEAKER_05

I thought about time we had our own like speedster version of like Tyreek Hill. That guy was just always a terrible man to guard, and we needed some juice, some speed. And uh I think we went from maybe kind of a I mean, I like all of our wide receivers, I like Cortland Sutton, you know, I like all these guys that we got, but didn't necessarily maybe have that top-end talent that some of the other rooms got. So I I was I was just thrilled to have a weapon that will give defensive coordinators nightmares. And you know, we gotta do the best by bone nicks, we gotta, we gotta exhaust every resource possible. Jalen Waddell is way better than anybody we could draft at pick 30, especially at the you know, for this year. So I man, I I was thrilled. And props to George Payton for pulling the trigger on another deal. We've been waiting a while, you know. Obviously, Rust didn't work out, but that's okay. I don't think that was completely his fault. Uh I like this trade. I like this trade a lot, and I don't think we gave up too much, especially with getting that fourth round pick back. I think it was nice for the you know, Cage Casey. Is that who we got uh with with that pick? Yep. Yeah, he could be a starting offensive lineman for us in a year or so. So uh we'll we'll see. But Kelly, what'd you think?

SPEAKER_02

I like, I mean, I I really feel bad about our wide receiver room because I like the guys. Yeah, they just don't always deliver and they don't always step up, you know. Like I want Sorton to set Sutton to be more than a flash in a pan, you know. Like, I don't know how many times on broadcast you heard it took till the fourth quarter, but now he's here. So something is happening. If it if it's because it's the only name we have, so he's getting, you know, double teamed all the time, you know. Um we needed a weapon for Bo. I mean, we we we gotta go all in on Bo. We've we've stood beside him, we've heard how he's trash, how he's the worst um quarterback in his draft, you know, he's been compared across the draft class, but he's done really, really well and he's exceeded expectations. And if Sean Payton's all in and we're all in, we yeah, we we have to give him the tools. We've seen too many. Uh quarterback, we we've seen too many times. There's too many interesting, you know, instances in NFL history. A quarterback cannot do it alone. The quarterback, I mean, very seldom does the quarterback throw and catch the ball. You know, the quarterback can, you know, other than the the flute passes, you know, here and there, the quarterback cannot throw to himself. He cannot drop back and get downfield and and and catch the ball. So, and and we really need that because we've seen Bo can throw, Bo can go downfield. We need, you know, we need more than the threats that we have. And again, it's so hard to say because it's hard to criticize the football without feeling like you're criticizing the guy.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

And I like our guys, you know, the the and you know, I like that we didn't bring in a whole bunch of people because I do feel like the culture of the Denver Broncos has finally kind of gotten back to where these guys want to play for their coach, they want to play for each other, they show up for each other. And when you when you get certain people in locker rooms, that goes away and and and the fall off is steep.

SPEAKER_05

That's a wonderful point.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, so um, you know, as long as he blends in with our culture, it's a great pick.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, yeah. And I think he does, you know, he's like Pat Sertan's best friend. He knows Pat Sertan's one of those corners that doesn't have an ego either. So the the fact that you're bringing that up, I think it's yeah, we don't really have the the divas, the prima donna.

SPEAKER_02

You know, and divas never done the closest thing to diva we had in Denver was Brandon Marshall, and you know, he didn't last. No, you know, Denver doesn't that you know, Denver as a city kind of doesn't put up with it, it's not okay. I mean, um Shannon Sharp calls himself a princess tight end, you know. Um, but that's just because he's like, I'm not gonna block. Yeah, we were like, okay, cool, you do you do enough of the other stuff, no problem.

SPEAKER_05

Forgot we had Jerry Judy too. Jerry Judy kind of had that little reputation.

SPEAKER_02

And he didn't last, did he? Yeah, he didn't last, did he? And he wanted to talk shit during the Clealing game, and what the fuck happened, Judy? So, you know, it it doesn't, it's not Denver's not a culture with KC where we can take the big egos, where we let it ride, you know, it it just it doesn't work in Denver, it doesn't work in Denver football. No. Um, so you know, I I hope it brings great things, and as much as I love Court Cortland Senton, yeah, we we need we need people catching Bo's passes before the fourth quarter. Well said, absolutely.

SPEAKER_03

I will say to add on to your um Bo can't throw and catch, there's one quarterback that I can think of that has actually done that, and that was Marcus Mariota in that playoff game against the uh there's been a couple Tom Brady a couple times has had a pass batted to him.

SPEAKER_02

I think Jalen Hurts did it in like a playoff game, like uh Kyle Murley's done it a couple times because his passes are so easy to bat. Um I'm not ever gonna forgive the dude. I'm sorry. Um just a reminder my personal beef with Kyle Murray is alive and well. Um, so it you know, it it's happened, you know, a handful of times. Or I I think Rogers has gotten one or Farr got one. I think a Packer quarterback got one. Like it's not, you know, and I know there's always the trick play where we, you know, they run the the quarterback down and the quarterback catches it, you know. Brady's done that a couple times and stuff like that, but they're not they're not the ones throwing the ball in that instance. So, you know, it's you know, you know, you quote, I quote uh any given Sunday all the time. It's the ultimate team sport. Yep, you have to have all those men on the field and all those gears have to be clicking for for you to win.

SPEAKER_03

Yep. Well, since we're talking about quarterbacks catching the ball, one moment that comes to my mind is this being in the Philadelphia area. You want Philly Philly?

SPEAKER_05

Oh, yeah, yeah, we could do that.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, oh, and um Bo caught Bo actually caught a pass too. So we had our own Philly special two years ago.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, who was that against? I'm trying to remember.

SPEAKER_03

It was the Ravens.

SPEAKER_05

That's right, yeah, they destroyed us like they normally do.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, that was, I think, the only touchdown we had that entire game.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_03

The Bo hype the Bo hype was real, and then the Ravens kind of put a stop to it for a little bit.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, that was a tough game. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Um, so we have here oh, um, one little tidbit that I found out today. Uh Jalen Waddle was the sixth overall pick in the 2020 2021 NFL draft. And guess who was drafted three picks after him?

SPEAKER_04

Pat Sertan, that's right. Pat Sertan. I forgot they were the same draft.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. How about that? How about that? So Waddle, so a little some stats. Sorry, let me try that again. Some stats on Waddle. Um last season had 64 catches for 910 yards and six touchdowns. Respectable. I can that's definitely something that we need. Um, since he's entered the league, and this is gonna be among all AFC wide receivers, fourth in receiving yards, sixth in receptions, seventh in receiving touchdowns, and he's had the fifth most 100-yard games. Wow. So sounds like a top 10 receiver in the AFC, which is probably something we need to help ease the pressures that are Cortland Sutton. And one other thing that I want to talk about, um, Kelly kind of pointed out like the wide receivers are so inconsistent. The inconsistency part of it, it's the catches, they cannot catch the ball. There are some times where like they're wide open and they drop a pass, and we're all in Broncos Country collectively go sighing, like, oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, because I'm really and you know, because I'm tired of the Twitter debate. That that was bow's throw. No, that was the receiver can't catch. You you gotta catch the ball. I mean, you have to catch the ball. I mean, I always go back to Emmanuel Sanders. I that man did not care if he had to cartwheel, if he had to somersault, if he had to backflip, wherever Peyton put that ball, Emmanuel Sanders could come down with that ball. Like the the the this concept that the NFL football, the ball's gonna come straight to your little triangled hands is stupid.

SPEAKER_05

No, it's not called football.

SPEAKER_02

That's not how it worked. Yeah, so I mean, yes, both behind. I mean, Bo's not perfect, you know, but uh so many of those catches, so many of those drops I felt should have been passes or catches.

SPEAKER_05

Well, I just remember now, too. One big offseason change is that they fired the wide receivers coach, uh Carrie Colbert, and they brought in uh Ronald Curry. And so that's very my whole thing with the coach is like we saw everybody dropping passes all the time. I think we were what second in the NFL and drop passes. Uh so when it's that sort of an issue with everybody, maybe go and get new wide receiver coach, and hopefully everybody can improve a little bit, right? Like, so absolutely, it's gotta be something with the coaching if everybody's struggling with it.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, yeah. Catch the baby, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

All right, so um, yeah, catch the baby for sure. And I totally forgot about that. So I'm hoping. Oh, you know what else I forgot? We speaking of offense, we have a new um offensive coordinator slash play caller now.

SPEAKER_05

That's probably the biggest change of the offseason.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, that was big news because Sean Payton swore up and down he was not giving up play calling.

SPEAKER_03

Now we got Davis Webb calling the plays in 2026.

SPEAKER_02

That's interesting. That was interesting because he swore, I'm gonna be the play caller, I'm gonna be the play caller. Um, and then suddenly, no, that's okay. Maybe we couldn't keep Webb unless Peyton gave it up.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, because he he was interviewing for quite a few jobs from what I remember.

SPEAKER_02

So maybe he came back and said, nah, you gotta let me run it. And so help me guide Davis Webb. If you run a screen pass on third and eight, or we'll find you.

SPEAKER_05

I'm excited for that though.

SPEAKER_02

I mean, and light your shoes on fire.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, I had like a kind of a love hate with the Sean Payton. It's like at the end of the day, like we still I think we're like a fringe top 10 offense with like points, but it's like how we would get those that sometimes it just didn't seem sustainable.

SPEAKER_02

Like well, yeah, as an older Bronco fan, it just reminded me so much of the later Dan Reeve years with John O. A with with the the run the rock, run the rock, which that's what football was, you know, in in in the 70s and the early 80s. Run the rock, run the rock, we run the rock, we run the rock. And when he couldn't now, if he'd use Shanahan zone blocking instead of kicking him to the Raiders, and then we had to hire him back to replace him, then maybe we could have run the rock a little bit more, but he wouldn't do the zone blocking either. So it's just, and then you know, it'd be the fourth quarter, and okay, we're down by two, you got four minutes, you know, whatever, LA, do whatever you're gonna do. And LA kept doing it. And you know, sometimes it wasn't sustainable. Sometimes LA couldn't complete the comeback. Um, he just did so many times, but you know, it got easier with LA when it could be a balanced game, and it you didn't have to, you know, suddenly with you know, two minutes and 12 football seconds left, be like, okay, we're gonna march the ball down. Defense is gonna get me the ball back, we're gonna march him down again. You know, I mean, I love Warren Moon's, you know, quote. If there's more, if if I've got two minutes and I'm not up by three scores, I haven't won the game against LA. LA's gonna come take that game, you know, and that that that that quote up there, you know, is up there with uh Steve Smith's quote about Champ Bailey. The earth is 70% covered by water, the rest is covered by Champ Bailey. So, you know, um, you can have great players, but you know, again, it's it's it just felt so much like that. We're gonna do it this way, we're gonna win this way, we're gonna win this way. Oh shit, we're not winning. Okay, Bo, go do whatever. Yeah, and it's not we're not in a position where we can do that to Bo and keep him. You know, you know, LA wasn't gonna jump shit. Bo gets too frustrated, it's too easy for Bo to jump shit. Absolutely, you know, but you know, LA played in an era where you just kind of stayed with your team and okay, this sucks, but this is you know, I threw my big fit. This is where I came. You know, Bo's gonna be like, oh shit, my contract's over. Bye.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, I'm hoping we get out to some more fast starts. Like, yeah, you know, uh in the 2015 with Manning, you know, of course, maybe you had to change the way you played a little bit. The man couldn't feel his hands, you know, half the time, but we don't necessarily need to have that approach with what what is Bo 25, 26 years old. No, let's go and take the lead early.

SPEAKER_02

Well, yeah, I mean that I really want I don't know what my cats are doing. I really want um Peyton to start more aggressive, and sometimes he would, and then the offense just didn't deliver. To be fair, there are times he came out and tried to strike, and it something got dropped, something got fumbled.

SPEAKER_06

Well Jordan Hungry, I feel like yes.

SPEAKER_02

Um, you know, the the the running back. Just, you know, didn't stretch out the ball. You know, sometimes I think he tried. I just, you know, so yeah, I'm I'm very curious to see, you know, the what eight scripted plays that that Webb starts the season with.

SPEAKER_04

Yes.

SPEAKER_02

Yep.

SPEAKER_03

Um, one thing about this offense I'm hoping for, Davis Webb, is that we don't wait until the fourth quarter to score 33 points.

SPEAKER_02

I mean, we can still score 33 points in the fourth quarter. But you know, if we score 33 points up to the fourth quarter, that's okay too. Yes.

SPEAKER_05

We will win if we do that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Like I'm fine. We can still score in the please still score in the fourth quarter. Don't flip it where we go to a hot start and can't keep it.

SPEAKER_06

Right. That's your mind.

SPEAKER_03

You seeing that reminds me of a team that did that. They go up to a hot start, and then most of the time, I think it was um, so I remember the 2013 season for the Broncos.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, the Ravens do it all the time.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, and the Ravens do it all the time too. Where Denver would score all these points, but sometimes the defense wouldn't hold. So a four well, let's say a 40 to nothing score could be end up being like 40 to 24, and you're like, oh, like that was like it was actually not as close as it was. Our defense just allowed 24 points in the last 10 minutes of the game.

SPEAKER_02

Well, I mean, because I had that argument a lot where you know, when we were losing the by those one-score teams, sometimes the defense just needs to hold those one-score games. It's only nine o'clock where I am. I'm sorry, I keep messing my way up. Um, so yeah, I mean, the deep the the defense still needs to hold.

SPEAKER_03

And um, defense bringing a lot of players back will hopefully help. But I know we did, I'm just making if we did do it. No, actually, most of the draft was focused on offense for the most part because I mean the defense top the what type top five in the league in almost every category. So hopefully that stands pat with um. So actually, I'm gonna say this because I don't think I've given him enough credit, and I I have a feeling I know what Kelly will say here. Um, Vance Joseph. Um, we know him from his time. I see the eye roll. I saw the eye roll. Um he he reminds me of gosh, he's a great coordinator. He's a bad head coach, yeah, but a bad head coach.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, and so I think just you know, as much as I love Wade Phillips, I would walk over glass for Wade Phillips. I feel the same way. He's an awesome defensive coordinator, he's just not a good head coach.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, I didn't want to compare Vance Joseph and Wade Phillips because I wasn't sure if I would trigger anything on your end.

SPEAKER_02

No, I like I mean, it's just um I'm I'm I'm gonna write him hard though, because we all want to, you know, oh, we have to give Vance Joseph his flowers. He needs to repeat the success. He's got the same personnel, so I don't want to hear, oh, he's working with new players. He has to repeat the success because the number one rule of football defense wins championships.

SPEAKER_06

Yep.

SPEAKER_02

However, however, I got I gotta agree with people who say defenses don't usually repeat championships when the Legion of Boom fizzled out, our no-fly fizzled out. The the steel curtain lasted quite a long time, but football was a different game then. So um, who is the other defense recently that had a nickname?

SPEAKER_05

Um Kansas City probably should have had a nickname, but they didn't. I mean, Kansas City's defense was probably, in my opinion, the the better group between the offense and the defense and their kind of Super Bowl runs.

SPEAKER_02

Well, they're not ever gonna get any credit when you got turned in on the other side of the ball. I know. And Taylor Swift's fiance and uh, you know, all the white beaters they keep hiring. Um so uh you know, they don't go back to back to back to back.

unknown

Right.

SPEAKER_02

You get a couple really raw say Ray Lewis, that defense. How many defenses did that how many championships did that defense win?

SPEAKER_03

Um yeah, one is one is early years, and I think so yeah, because they were just retired after the yeah. After 2014.

SPEAKER_02

I'm not getting off An Joseph's neck until he repeats this success.

SPEAKER_03

Fair enough.

SPEAKER_02

Because you can have a great one-year championship winning defense, it doesn't, you know, get immoralized until you repeat it.

SPEAKER_03

Absolutely. One thing I kind of want to point out before we move on to the draft is looking at um, and I know this is gonna be a complete 180 from what we're talking about because we're talking defense, so that dreaded Miami game. I think what needs to be studied is we can bury different huh?

SPEAKER_01

Why can't we JR Smith that? I thought we JR Smith this for something we JR Smith.

SPEAKER_03

Well, here's the thing with it too, though, is that the reason it comes out is because there was like a conversation, I think, between Schefter and uh Sean Payton, and it's something that needs to be studied that the both the Dolphins and the Broncos went in completely different directions that we didn't expect since that game.

SPEAKER_02

That has a lot to do with coaching.

SPEAKER_03

Yes.

SPEAKER_02

Now look, I get again, Mike McDaniels is personable, and when he comes and he talks to the press, he seems like a likable guy. Sean Payton does not. Sean Payton seems like you know, my type of NFL coach where but I gotta talk to these reporters. Y'all don't know, y'all don't know ball. You've watched enough football, you've heard some announcers say some shit, so you think you have intelligent questions, I got a fucking job to do. Leave me alone. Right? And that that I that's who I like my head coach to be. McDaniels seems like, oh, these are my friends, this is my buddy, I got jokes with them, you know, let me pop bottles with them, you know, especially being in Miami. But Mike McDaniels coaching reminds me a lot of Josh McDaniel's coaching.

SPEAKER_03

Interesting.

SPEAKER_02

Where when it's good, they're funny, they're nice, and when it's bad, you kind of get this pouty, stolen person who just doesn't know what to do.

SPEAKER_03

And who yells and who yells at your players for three and then starts to spiral.

SPEAKER_02

And so, you know, we've all seen Josh McDaniels tuck tail and go back where you know he's always gonna have a home, right? And McDaniel and and then the and Mike McDaniels is really freaking struggling with what to do, right? Because he doesn't know what to do. He he went all in on Tua and and he should have held some back. He should have kept something close to his best, and he didn't, and now he's just kind of stuck. And you know, it's good it's in Miami because Miami's not football. Yeah, right, you know, it's not Boston, it's not uh Denver, it's not New York, it's not, you know, there's so much other shit to do in in Miami that's not you know, that's a lot you know, they ain't got shit else to do when they're stuck in the snow in the dark, they watch football, so um, which is great, those are my type of people. Um don't get me wrong. I appre football. So um he's kind of stuck. And so that's what you know, when he when it's good, when his team can put up 70, he knows what to do, he knows what to say because it's fun and it's games and it's high fives. Struggling, and you know, quarterbacks with concussions, he's kind of spiraled out and he doesn't know how to write the shit. Peyton took that and said, Okay, I know what the fuck I need to do. Watch this. And it took a while because you got to get out of the storm and you got to get past the waves, and you know, you're still taking salt water saltwater to the face.

SPEAKER_05

Well, you cut the bad apples right after that. I mean, uh remember Randy Gregory and Frank Clark, and you just got those guys out of there, yeah. Right after that, right?

SPEAKER_02

Daniels hasn't done anything to write his shit, really. And now we're not seeing happy go lucky Mike McDaniels, who people want to dress up for for Halloween. We're seeing the guy that's like, what? Yeah, you gotta score more points to win. Well, no shit, Charlotte. How how are you gonna do that? Like, you know. So I mean that that that really comes down to coaching. That really comes down to uh, you know, you gotta go back into the face of the storm and and fix it. And and I think McDaniel just kind of said, Oh, well, you know, there's an island over there we can shipwreck.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Well, now we'll get to see what he does with uh Justin Herbert in LA.

SPEAKER_01

We'll see.

SPEAKER_05

It's kind of ironic because you pass on Justin Herbert, right? For Tua.

SPEAKER_03

Um yeah, I think he yeah, I think he did. Um yeah, I think he did.

SPEAKER_05

Because I think Tua went first and then Herbert. And then everyone's like Dolphins made an amazing decision. No.

SPEAKER_02

Well, I mean, and I as fans, we have convinced ourselves of many different things. Right? We have you know uh um some people were very convinced Brock was the person, Brock was the guy.

SPEAKER_05

He he would have been maybe if he didn't go to Houston. The vibes were good.

SPEAKER_02

I nah, you know, but you know, in the end, no.

SPEAKER_05

No, he was bad. Um his second stint was horrible.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, to uh, you know, it it kind of the same thing. Every, you know, everyone convinced themselves he could do it. Yeah, you know, we we convinced ourselves for a while. Um Mike McDaniels is fine, that's good, that's great, it's fine, it's fine, and it wasn't, you know. Um we we were coming I convinced myself Russ Wilson would would turn the ship. That's it, that's the call, that's the play. It wasn't it, you know, you convince yourself of a lot of things.

SPEAKER_05

Man, I thought we were gonna win multiple Super Bowls with Russell Wilson when he first got traded here.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, so like I said, it's not, you know, this is this is one of the reasons I don't talk a lot about the draft. I don't I don't do mock drafts, I don't do uh a whole bunch of predictions because football on paper is very easy.

SPEAKER_06

Yep, absolutely, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Everyone does a bracket. Oh, I know what to pick on my bracket, and what always happens.

SPEAKER_05

Mm-hmm. There's no brackets, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

You know, they have to play the game. So, you know, Sean Payton is all in. These are, you know, I said last season, this is my Super Bowl winning team. I can do it with this team. He's kind of pretty he's stuck by him, he's still all in on him. He made some moves, he made some adjustments, but nothing, he didn't overhaul the whole thing. He still thinks he has he has the answer, you know, and so that's what you see. So, you know what what were we gonna improve other than a receiver? I mean, I maybe would have gone for a running back too, but yeah.

SPEAKER_05

How do y'all feel about linebacker? That's a kind of a polarizing question with the fan base.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, it is very I'm just really surprised that I mean looking at the draft, we only drafted one inside linebacker, yeah. And so, and then we just got rid of, or we didn't get rid of, we released Drake Greenlaw, and so now we're gonna be rolling with Alex Singleton and Justin Sernade. Um Alex Singleton, great when it comes to tackling and playing the run game. Sometimes, sometimes passing game, not so great. And with Sernod, I haven't seen enough of him to really get an opinion per se. But I'm kind of hoping that maybe somewhere down the line, maybe training camp wise, we look at that position and we're like, okay, maybe we need a little bit more help there, or who knows, maybe our Mr. Irrelevant will surprise us.

SPEAKER_05

That'd be amazing.

SPEAKER_04

That'd be amazing.

SPEAKER_02

Um, yeah, our defense is a strong unit, so yeah, I wouldn't overhaul it per se. I can see why they didn't go the overall route. Um, but yeah, our weaknesses are our weaknesses, and this is why I say I'm I'm not taking my foot off of Vance's neck. Is it no? You've got to show me now. You have the success, you have this, you have to repeat it with this personnel because you didn't go fight and go, This is what I need, this is what I need, this is what my system needs, this is what I need. So you did the same thing Peyton did. You you're standing by your your your all in on this personnel, and this is what I can do, and I can repeat it. I need to see it repeated before I go.

SPEAKER_06

I yeah, yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_02

Because you know, really it's up and down. You know, that that's Joseph's defense sometimes that couldn't stand up and make the stop we needed.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, kind of tails off towards the end of the season. That's the one thing that Vance has no excuses. Like you said, after bringing everybody back this year, you can't tail off towards the end of the year. Uh, I know Buffalo had like the number one offense in the NFL, but a defense should slow them down. And thank God we had those turnovers, right? But we we won a game where we didn't force a punt the entire the entire game, and that that needs to change.

SPEAKER_02

Uh so and we need way more turnovers.

SPEAKER_05

Yes, yes, and yeah, Riley's got to catch the biggest.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, you you you gotta get the ball back into Bo's hands and and keep those offenses in the in the AFC the buck off the field. They can't score if they're not on the field.

SPEAKER_03

Absolutely. Um, speaking of the draft, since David brought it up, um it's time that we can um let's move right along to our draft. Um, a little bit of history was made for the Broncos for this draft. Um, for the first time since 1995, the Broncos did not have a pick in the first or the second round. Um when they went in 1995, they actually went up until the fourth round before they made a pick. But that year they did draft a pretty solid running back who is in the hall of fame, so I guess it kind of worked out a little bit.

SPEAKER_05

How about that? So are you saying Jonah Coleman is our next Hall of Fame running back? Wouldn't that be nice?

SPEAKER_03

That would be very nice. I know.

SPEAKER_02

Is he out of Georgia?

SPEAKER_03

Um, he's out of Washington, if that helps.

SPEAKER_02

Uh that's not Georgia. Uh pretty bad at geography, but uh I know, I'm really bad.

SPEAKER_03

Um, but for our first pick, which didn't happen until the third round, we actually would have had a second round, but I think we I actually remember I had like an Ed Oliver kind of like moment there because there was a guy, I can't remember his name, and but we were coming up and we were gonna draft. I think that probably wouldn't have the way we could have gone. But I think it was Buffalo that ended up drafting not Buffalo, I'm sorry. There was a team that drafted him before we could get to him, so we traded back with Buffalo, I think is what I'm thinking about.

SPEAKER_05

Oh who did you think that was? Or like they were going after.

SPEAKER_03

I'm trying, I'm actually look, I'm trying to remember, but while I'm looking that up, um David, can you tell us a little bit about our first pick, Tyler Onyedum? O Yedum, defensive tackle from Tech St. M. Because when I heard that name, I was like, okay, we got a defensive tackle. That helps because we did lose John Franklin Myers.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Um, and I mean we saw Malcolm Roach, but defensive tackle was probably not the first thing I was thinking of when we would make our first pick.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, I was hoping we would go like tight end or you know, something on offense type of thing, but I you know, I'll never fault teams for drafting offensive and defensive linemen with their first picks. So uh that's how you build you know stability for the long term. So he's a he's a real athletic defensive tackle. Definitely can kind of play that. Uh John Franklin Myers' role. I don't know how much we'll see from him this year. I mean, you know, we drafted Savion Jones last year. I think I think a lot of people are kind of sleeping on Malcolm Roach. If I had to like bet on it right now, I think he's gonna be uh the guy starting in place of JFM. And I thought Roach took a really nice step last season and shows some more pass rush chops than what he had done previously. Uh, but yeah, oh Yedem's a fun, he he's a fun defensive tackle. Again, it's not never gonna be sexy when you draft like a defensive tackle from Texas AM with your first pick in like the third round, but and like you know, Cage Casey, an offensive lineman. Uh, you know, it's it's never like star-studded, but I think like those two specific picks are ones that I can really get behind. Guys, we hadn't drafted an offensive tackle, and I don't know if Casey will play tackle or guard. We haven't drafted an offensive tackle since Garrett Bowles, and that's bad process. We've gotten away with it, we've gotten lucky. Um, so I I was real happy that we we spent some capital up front. Um, but I don't know how much they'll play this year, to be honest. What do you guys think?

SPEAKER_03

Um well I'll tell before I for before I forget, um, it was Josiah Trotter I was thinking of that we were gonna draft the linebacker. Tampa Bay took him like 10 picks before we could pick them. So um so Kate, I don't think Cage Casey, I think Cage Casey is gonna be more of a player that's gonna probably take over in like his at the earliest, maybe the second year, because I know next year uh I want to say it's Ben Powers and Ben Powers' contract, I think is gonna be up real soon. And um, there's also Mike McGlinchie, too. I mean, I know he was drafted as a tackle, but there was a lot of like speculation that he could play like on the inside at guard. So when they said that, I'm like, I know exactly where they're thinking of looking, right at that left guard spot.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, yeah. I find it interesting they announced him as a guard, so that would be my hunch too. Uh but yeah, maybe Paucho will be that right tackle after McGlinchy, but yeah, that's down the future quite a bit.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, absolutely. Um, one one player. Well, I have two players I was actually excited about. Um, after Cage Casey, although we had to wait another 59 picks before we got him, we traded up to get Justin Jolly, which I'm like, ooh, that's gonna be a fun name to say. Um Christmas. Yep, Christmas. And we have we drafted a tight end, which I was like, at this point, I'm like, with all the tight ends that were like being drafted, I'm like, are we ever gonna draft this guy? Are we ever gonna draft a tight end to help out Bo Nicks? Um, but Justin Jolly, like, I'm actually kind of excited for him.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, and he doesn't drop the ball either. Like, he had a very low drop percentage in college, and I like Evan Ingram, but that was like the thing I think that kind of kept him from being involved more in the offense was he had like one of the most drops for like all tight ends last year. So I like Jolie uh a lot. I was surprised he fell all the way to the fifth round, but I I love the fact that we went up and got him. Um This was a good tight end class, I think. And it pained me that we didn't really draft a tight end last year except Caleb Lohner. And maybe he'll be something this year. You know, we'll we'll have to see. Uh, but yeah, I think Jolie, I think he's somebody that will be involved in this offense in some capacity this year, and uh he can be a security blanket for Bo. I I like his game a lot, plus again the nickname Big Christmas in Denver, I think that's just perfect.

SPEAKER_03

Well, he's gonna have to fight with um uh I can't I think he's a Cleveland Guardian uh baseball player, but I know he um his last name's Noel, but I know he was dubbed Big Christmas in like a playoff game, so Jolly might have to compete with that one.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, yeah, we'll have to see. Well, yeah, he's gotta catch some touchdowns then to prove it.

SPEAKER_03

Yep, absolutely. Could you imagine Justin Jolly on the team catching a pass against the Buffalo Bills on Christmas?

SPEAKER_05

See, oh my god, yes, we play on Christmas. I'm excited for that game so much. Um, and I like that it's on a Friday. I feel like we don't normally we've seen now on Thursday nights, we just don't play good, especially with Sean Payton. We suck on Thursdays, but we don't know yet if we suck on Fridays yet. So we got two Friday games, a Black Friday and Christmas. We'll figure out if that extra day makes a difference.

SPEAKER_03

Absolutely. Um, and then we got Miles Scott, which is a safety. Um, I figure he's probably more special teams for the time being. Yeah, and then Dallin Bentley, tight end from Utah. So we double dipped on tight end in this draft. So that was actually I'm I'm okay with that.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, I wasn't a big fan of like bringing back Adam Troutman, yeah. So maybe Bentley can kind of push him. I think Troutman's spot on the roster is pretty safe, even if these young tight ends look good. But at least you got some guys that you can now develop behind him to where maybe you're not tied to him throughout the life of his contract.

SPEAKER_03

Absolutely, and then I do remember hearing, I think it was for rookie minicamp that um, or maybe it wasn't rookie minicamp next yeah, um, that um Caleb Blonner has been showing some promise.

SPEAKER_05

Dude, maybe he can be our next Julius Thomas, right? It took him a little bit to get going, you know, being a basketball player. So if he can just be even half of what Julius Thomas was for us, um, you know, back with Manning, I I think we got a good tight end. But that that's probably my big hot take. I always have like some random player that's kind of more seen as like a scrub that I'm just like all in on. Like I really wanted to see AT Perry play last year, never active at all. Yep. Um, but I was like, he's six five, you can get downfield. I think Caleb Werner is gonna be my AT Perry this year, where I just want to see what he can do. He's six seven.

SPEAKER_03

Six seven, yep. I uh uh being a Kel so Kelly and I are teachers, and I automatically, when you said six seven, thought about oh no, you guys are triggered by that.

SPEAKER_05

I didn't mean to trauma traumatize though.

SPEAKER_03

I was like, oh gosh, here we go again. I can we we can't escape it, apparently. We can never escape it.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, I did.

SPEAKER_03

You you shut that down.

SPEAKER_02

If Miss Kern hears you say six seven, you're gonna miss six seven minutes of recess.

SPEAKER_03

That's actually pretty cool.

SPEAKER_02

Now they're scared to count because they go one, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, yes, keep going eight, nine, ten.

SPEAKER_03

Oh boy. Um, and then right back. They take a big break between that six, one, two, three, seven, eight, nine. Um, with our last pick, um, Mr. Irrelevant, we got Red Murdoch. Um, which, if you were on the Twitter machine, Mario was very high on him. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Um Red Murdoch's a beast, man. Uh you guys probably know the stat by now. Most force uh fumbles in NCAA history. I know. He's got that. It's way harder than like a peanut Tillman punch because he's a linebacker, but I'm pumped to see what he can do. And with all these teams, you know, you hear about it a lot now. Um, San Francisco, Seattle, LA, they're doing a lot of these sets where they have three tight ends in the game. And uh, you're gonna need some guys who can really thump, you know. You need some bigger linebackers again, and uh yeah, I think uh you know, Red Murdoch, he's kind of a throwback to that. And I'm excited to see what he can do, especially on those short, you know, third and shorts and goal lines. And I I hope I hope he makes the team, and I hope we get to see him a little bit.

SPEAKER_03

Absolutely. Uh, a little fun stat that I found um interesting enough for the world of TikTok, and I want to say either I shared it with Kelly or Kelly shared it with me. So Red Murdoch, his real name is Khalil, and as you mentioned, um, he had the most forced fumbles in um NCL white history. The record that he broke um was so he had 17 force fumbles. The record he broke was 16, and you know who had that um stat? Khalil Mack.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, there you go.

SPEAKER_03

And and guess where Khalil Mack played football?

SPEAKER_05

Buffalo. Buffalo from the same spot. They coach it there.

SPEAKER_03

Yep. So I'm I'm really I think that's probably the one pick I'm really excited to see is Red Murdoch.

SPEAKER_05

I was gonna go crazy if we didn't draft a linebacker. Like oh yeah, I I wanted us to sign another line. I was you know, I was bummed the whole Dre Greenlaw thing didn't work out, you know. Yeah, maybe just maybe it's true he just wasn't good fit, but um yeah, we we sort of like offensive line. It's like, man, it would be nice to draft some you know, guys that are not you know in the seventh round, but I'll take this. I'll take this seventh round linebacker, Red Murdoch. That's how bad I want us to to develop some guys behind singleton and strength. So man, we'll see what happens. You know, the Buffalo captain, um Matt Milano, he's still a free agent. So I know Todd, you were talking about maybe we bring in another veteran at some point. He's a guy that I would love the Broncos to bring in because if we got an injury there in a Super Bowl year, I don't know how wise it is to be dependent on maybe a rookie like Red Murdoch or you know, Jordan Turner, some of those other guys we got, like they're fine, but they're not like a Matt Milano.

SPEAKER_02

We'll have to see exactly, and I wouldn't mind how depth matters.

SPEAKER_03

I mean, so that's interesting because the podcast episode we've talked about patience, and now we're talking about depth.

SPEAKER_06

So perfect, we got it covered.

SPEAKER_03

Yep. Um, so usually they so I was looking at some of the grades they gave our drafts, um, which are some were a little surprising. So let's go around the horn. And what grade would you give this Broncos draft class?

SPEAKER_05

Ooh, I forget what I gave it, but I'll I'll give it a B because we uh we addressed some of our needs. We went with offensive and defensive line, which is important for the future. And Jonah Coleman was a guy that I really wanted the Broncos to get my whole like the whole draft process. I just wanted him to be a Broncos so bad. So Jonah Coleman, I think he's perfect for this backfield. Um, you know, draft grades. They some people say they're silly to see before they play, whatever. I still love giving grades, I still think it's fine. I'll give them a B. And um if they end up being even better than that, I'll figure out a way to say I gave them an A.

SPEAKER_03

Well, as teachers, we have to give grades all the time.

SPEAKER_05

So see, you guys are used to it, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, but yeah, I would I I would agree with you. I'd give this class a B.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I mean, I don't get to give letter grades, I give a plus, a check, or a minus. I'd give it a check.

SPEAKER_05

Um okay, that's a good way. I like that. It's fine, you know.

SPEAKER_02

You know, yeah, it's fine, it's getting there. Um, you know, because you know, I I've said it 900 million times. I have been wrong trying to look at college players and deciding if they will fit in the NFL. Um G and I thought would be, you know, just bust out, change the game, never made a roster. Ones I thought would suck, change the game. So I can't evaluate talent apparently. And I think the Broncos in in history have done, you know, a pretty good job. Yeah, you know, they they fail sometimes, they win sometimes. So I don't know what they're looking at. I'm not gonna criticize people that go watch the the 900 college football games and and find these people that they have to find. Um, you know, so yeah, I'm one, you know, until we see how it pans out, it you know, it's not really fair. And then, you know, we talk, you know, I talk about it a lot. You can be a great player, but if you go to a bad situation, it's almost unfair.

SPEAKER_03

Yes, right, right.

SPEAKER_02

Like, um I don't know that the the quarterback for the Raiders will have a great career because he went to the Raiders. Yeah, you know, now the Raiders aren't on the come up, they're not just missing a piece. The Raiders are in a sorry state, and that's where he went. And you know, I feel that way. I like I feel like Tessa Birdie maybe would have been a much better quarterback if he hadn't gone to Tampa Bay. Um Vince Young, you know, kind of got trapped where he was and couldn't succeed. So it doesn't make them bad players, but you know, it just matters if you get into that locker room, if you've got veterans that mentor you, if you've got coaches that know how to coach you, if you can, if you fit in that scheme, you have great players that are just in the wrong scheme. They can't do what the coach is asking them to do because that's not where they play. So, you know, that's just not how they play football, and they've got that muscle memory of you know, three years at college that no, this is where I go, this is what I do. So, you know, um, you know, I'm all in on the draft day question, you know, but did he go to the birthday party?

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, yep, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Did they all go to the birthday party? That's just what I need to know. That's that's that's like so you know, and you have people like Judy who couldn't adjust. No, you know, and you know, I say this all the time, you know. Really, if I did a doctorate, that's what I would do it on, is these players that come out of places like Bama and LSU and just don't lose for four years. And then when they go somewhere and they're not winning, do they adjust? And some people do, and some like Jerry Judy, do not. They become the big spoil babies that you know being an athlete makes them. So, you know, well, you know, we'll have to see. So, you know, you you just kind of gotta wait to see. But I would give it a check. I think you know, they check, they checked some boxes, they did some things, you know, and you know, other than I mean, I don't think we've made the news on draft day since freaking Lway. Like Denver just always kind of flies under the radar and we do what we do, and and we still put you know, other than you know after Super Bowl 50, you know, we do we put pretty good teams on the field, even if they haven't been championship-winning teams. We put solid teams on the field throughout history. That's right.

SPEAKER_03

Yep, couldn't agree more.

SPEAKER_02

Um, all right, so I think that's although I would like clips of the rookie, you know, the rookies trying to play in in the thin air for the first week.

SPEAKER_03

That would be great. So that's oh, which we'll actually talk about because the first thing that comes to Denver will be Jacksonville. So I'll have to see what their who their rookies are and go from there. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Which speaking of which, um I mean our rookies, I mean like from camp.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, your uh our rookie.

SPEAKER_02

The first time they take off down the field and they get like 20 yards in and are like, what's happening to my legs? I mean ours, not I know what happens when teams come to mile high, they get really tired in that fourth quarter.

SPEAKER_03

Yep, very true. Um, so the schedule came out on Thursday, and uh it's very interesting. So I know David, you were talking a bit about that week one matchup against Kansas City. Yeah, I really think that they probably set this up because there must be something that because Mahomes is gonna be coming back from an ACL injury, yeah. I think he tore something else too. So we're not even sure if yeah, we're not even sure if he's gonna come be back for this game. But I think the whoever put the schedule together has like all the faith that Mahomes is gonna be back week one. So I think that's probably the biggest reason they did it. But it might blow up in their face if Mahomes isn't ready by week one.

SPEAKER_05

I can't believe like you know, Mahomes is their golden boy to put him up against the best pass rush in the NFL, week one, again, in the fact that okay, it's in Arrowhead, whatever. Thank God we don't have to face him in December in Arrowhead. We're getting this out of the way the first week. Like again, like I know a lot of people think like don't really like the first part of the schedule, you know, six playoff teams in six weeks. Yeah, it's a gauntlet, whatever. But I don't know, like when you bring back everybody, you should be able to hit the ground running a little bit faster than maybe what we've done in the past. And um I'd rather face those teams, hopefully, healthier. And you should be healthier at the beginning of the season. So we'll see what happens. But man, I I love that we get Kansas City on Monday night. Just like with the Broncos beating the Bills in the playoffs, man, the the rest of the NFL won't be able to handle when we beat the Chiefs. That's how I feel about it. They're not gonna know what to do.

SPEAKER_02

Well, it depends. If Mahomes isn't back, then it gets to be their excuse.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, yeah, you're right. I'm hoping he plays.

SPEAKER_02

This is twofold. This is gonna be Mahomes' homecoming, and oh, those Broncos that think they're all shit are gonna lose. Or if Mahomes doesn't come back, then well, you know, it's a Mahomeless Kansas City. Why are you so happy? Or if Mahomes is back but doesn't play well, well, it was his first game after injury. See, they've set him up so they win either way. Yeah, it's pretty much win-win and the golden boy has a win-win-win situation. He's not back, he's back and wins, or he backs and loses, and they've got the built-in, you know, excuse that oh, they gave him a division rival on Monday night right away. So the good news is Denver is good enough for getting primetime games early in the season.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

So let's focus on that. And one, I really think this first this first set sets, you know, it'll set the tone because either then the rest of the season we're chasing KC or KC's chasing us.

SPEAKER_03

Exactly.

SPEAKER_02

That's it. This game that the the Monday night game decides the season how the season is gonna shake out.

SPEAKER_06

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02

Who you know, who's gonna win the West. And I I just really don't believe the Chargers are gonna come out of nowhere.

SPEAKER_05

Chargers are gonna charge. We know how it is.

SPEAKER_02

So um that's just you know, um, but you know, yeah, you know, it's the I don't know, 30th year in a row that I'm gonna say that, you know, Pat Bowland slept with somebody's wife and they still just fucking hate the Broncos and they make the schedule because oh ah it's a ridiculous start to the season. Um, but the eight games following that look kind of suspiciously easy. See, that's even if we did a slow start to the season, god, we could finish strong. But I don't know because I don't know how morale goes. So, you know, this goes back to can we go three and three in the first six and then just come out and beat everybody into the ground, or will we go three and three and be in our heads? So, you know, it it or we could come out be six and oh and be like we're calling.

SPEAKER_05

But you're right. Uh all you need to do is go three and three, and I think you're in a really good spot the rest of the way. And yes, you know, the NFL changes all the time. Like, not I doubt all six of those teams are gonna make the playoffs this year.

SPEAKER_02

So yeah, it's and some of them, like, you know, it's it's a you know, the Ram game, you know, if we lose that one, let me pull it up. Um it will have little effect on our playoffs.

SPEAKER_06

That's right.

SPEAKER_02

Yes, you know, we have the city one that you know will will do it the most, and then um you know, the Jaguar ones, iffy, yeah, you know what I mean? Maybe, maybe not. It depends if you know Trevor Lawrence finally kind of had the football year we were waiting for him to have last year.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, yep.

SPEAKER_02

But again, does he repeat if it takes you that long to get there? Can you repeat it?

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_02

You know, and then um the Rams are kind of scary, the Niners are kind of iffy because when they're good, they're good, but God, they they kind of start off slow too. They're made out of glass. You breathe on them wrong, they're broken.

SPEAKER_05

Um, you know, and then we face them too, and uh because he tore his Achilles who will be out in the playoffs, George Kittle. So he'll miss the first part of the season.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, yeah, that's true. So, you know, and you know, then we got another division rival, and then you know, we got the we got the defending Super Bowl champs. So, you know, and I'm not scared of Arizona, I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_03

I don't think anyone is.

SPEAKER_05

Are Seattle and the Rams, are those both home games? Because I think a lot of the toughest opponents the Broncos get at home, which is so nice.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah. I mean, so you know, it's our but it's our year for only eight home games, not nine.

SPEAKER_06

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Well, we got nine, I mean that's gonna trade off every year because now we have an odd number of games in the season.

SPEAKER_05

That drives me crazy.

SPEAKER_02

I know looking at the schedule.

SPEAKER_03

I just want to say, looking at the schedule, I just noticed something that we have all five or all five of our NFC opponents before our buy. I don't think I've ever seen that before.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, but see, and again, that leads to they do think Denver will be a threat because after the buy, it will play with the AFC seeding.

SPEAKER_06

Yes, yep.

SPEAKER_02

So that's what it is. They want to try and knock us out early. And if we make it to the buy and we're still in it, every game's gonna matter.

SPEAKER_06

Yes, yep.

SPEAKER_02

They they really put the pressure on, and this is you know, and of course, we were the first seed in the AFC, so I was expecting a hard schedule. That's what you get when you win, you get the hard schedule. So what I need, um, so this is where Rebel, if Bo can survive this gauntlet and come out and have another great year, then yes, this is our guy, and people gotta stop talking shit because now we got to see Drake May do it. We gotta see uh, you know, how Jackson Dart rebounds, you know, because he fell apart without Scataboo.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

And so, you know, when Scatagou comes back, you know, will he be, you know, running into the walls he was running into, or you know, maybe will he be hesitant? So, you know, this, you know, that the this is the year I think finally Bo's not a rookie, and you know, he can't have a sophomore slump. And you know, does he come off this injury and does he just pick up where he left off, or does he really struggle against top teams?

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, he needs to get into rhythm, and that's gotta be Davis Webb's number one priority is just getting him into a rhythm quicker in these games. Cause yeah, the the highs and lows of this offense are they were just insane.

SPEAKER_02

They're like being at the the top of the Rocky Mountains and the bottom of them. You know, they're they're you know, they're they're here. And so, you know, if we can, if we can stay, you know, kind of here, you know, and he doesn't have to be the high high all the time. He doesn't have to overcome 27 points, 33 points, 18 points, you know, and you know, can kind of you know, may yeah, yeah, you know, yeah, you gotta come back. We got two scores down, you gotta come back from that. I think that's that's okay for any NFL quarterback to say, but just not constantly. If we can get, I would love to get out ahead and stay ahead in some of these games.

SPEAKER_06

Absolutely. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02

And that that comes on Mance Joseph also repeating his success with this defense. Keep Pat Chartan, the number one corner in the league, you know, get Riley Moss better, you know, tape his hands, you know, because he's racially profiled out there. Um and uh, you know, that it's it's you know, it's it's gonna be a hard season. And and again, this is just like you know, like the start of last year. Um, I said, you know, this is kind of the first year we get to go in with some hope. We still have hope. We still get to be high on hope and go, you know, and have faith. But that first that first six games, I think I'm gonna have to deactivate Twitter.

SPEAKER_05

Don't blame me on smart decision.

SPEAKER_02

Because you know, that Twitter some of that Twitter fan base is just oh, it was an incomplete first pass incomplete. That's it, season's over.

SPEAKER_03

Uh shout out Malahai Monsters here. What a cast!

SPEAKER_05

Thanks, Mike. Thanks for tuning in.

SPEAKER_03

Thank you. Um, one thing I I will so my big thing is that I always try to look to see what games I can go go to. And because I think you and I were talking about like I really want to go to that buffalo game. I was heartbroken when I found out we played them on Christmas.

SPEAKER_02

And just like I'm gonna get to a September Lambo game some point in my life, because September is the only month I trust myself to go to Lambeau because I'm not sitting in an ice bowl. Um, I'm not made for that. Uh there's not enough beer and cheese to make me made for that on this little California. Look, I'm wearing a hoodie inside my house, and it's Alexa, what's the temperature outside? Because it's 59 degrees outside my house, and I need a hoodie for that. So November and December in Lambo ain't for me.

SPEAKER_06

Right.

SPEAKER_02

Unless someone would like to give me a box, then I, you know, I'll go send a box for that. Um, so yeah, I I I need to make a Buffalo game and you know, some sometime in my life. Yeah, yeah, it's not gonna happen on Christmas.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. I mean, good thing um for you is that they travel to San Francisco. I can't wait. I can't wait. Um, let's see, San Francisco. Um, the close well, uh Pittsburgh would be an option, but that's a Black Friday, and I know Black Friday is an absolute no-go in my family, no matter what it is. Um not because of shopping, but because we do other things. Um am I willing to bear the December cold to go to um MetLife Stadium? I'm not sure. That is to be determined. Um I thought about like, oh, let's go to Denver. I want to go to Denver for the Miami game because I want to see us get that revenge game back. Oh, that's like the revenge game for me.

SPEAKER_02

I don't want it to be a revenge game though. I just want it to I wanted J.R. Smith. It happened, whatever. We we've moved on. I don't want it to be a revenge game, I don't want it to keep being brought at like it's gone. We've moved on, we've gotten better. Okay, we took our licks, it's over.

SPEAKER_03

Putting in my notes, never discuss that game again.

SPEAKER_02

But it's I mean, that's the we Jr. Smith it for someone who J.R. Smith it, you you are not Jr. Smith, you are not holding up the J.R. Smith part of our market.

SPEAKER_03

I know.

SPEAKER_02

Um David, do you get that reference, or are you like, why should you keep talking about J.R. Smith?

SPEAKER_05

I love J.R. Smith, so I'm wondering what it means.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, so he was asked a couple years ago if he ever thought about his mess up of like inbounding the ball.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Um, because he didn't realize they were tied.

SPEAKER_05

No, he's too high.

SPEAKER_02

Like, I even have a sticker. Yeah, I found a sticker of like his his his looks high as fuck face. I'm not accusing him being high, but he looks high as hell. He was what do you mean you're high? Yeah, he was still um, and he was asked, Do you ever think about that? He said, Nah, I don't think about it at all. It's done, it's gone. Why would I dwell on it? Like it's done. So when Ty and I JR Smith something, it's supposed to be done. We're not supposed to think about it anymore. And he keeps talking about it.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, okay. I just thought it was like because when I watched the Nuggets when he was on the team, I would say, Man, he just got J.R. Smith itis, man. Like he just shoot it and did not care. He didn't care if he was like oh for 10 or you know, if he made every shot, you know, he's just shooting that thing, and it's just whatever.

SPEAKER_02

No, I'm a big, I'm a big Warriors fan, so that moment live, you know, I love that he completely messed that and LeBron's face. The meme they made of LeBron's face.

SPEAKER_05

Forever in meme history.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. So I love that moment as a Warriors fan, but then you know, a couple years ago when they asked him, you know, do you ever think about that? He's like, no, I can't change it. What am I gonna what am I gonna think about? I can't change the Miami game. No one can change it, it happened. But again, I feel like the Broncos went back into the storm, got the ship right, Miami hasn't, but it's not, it's done. We we made it had us get better, and that that that's all we need to know.

SPEAKER_06

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02

All right, we don't need to think about it anymore.

SPEAKER_03

I like that. Um, so talking about the schedule, since I'm gonna actually forget about it now. Um, David, looking at this schedule, what are you and Kelly and I normally do our game by game prediction during training? September, yeah, during training camp.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, okay, cool.

SPEAKER_03

So what are your thoughts on how this team's gonna do as it as it stands right now?

SPEAKER_05

Uh, you know, I'm someone who's like kind of superstitious. So last year I thought I was going out on a limb with 13 and 4. I thought that that was like definitely putting the the orange colored glasses on. But we eclipsed that, and I was surprised. So this year, I'm just gonna stick with it. 13 and 4, I think, is good. Um again, you know, probably that line, I bet Vegas settles on like probably 10 and a half or like 11 and a half wins. Um, which more realistically, like I can maybe the 11 and a half I can get with, but I don't know. I just got faith that our Broncos are gonna pull things through. Again, you don't bring 20 of your 22 starters back and upgrade one of those starter starting positions, you know, with Jalen Waddell, um, and not expect to be one of the top teams in the NFL. And if they're not, then they're you know, there's some players are gonna get let go, some coaches are gonna go, you know, but this is their opportunity to prove that they were one holding call away from Super Bowl. So I'm expecting them to win the AFC West. I think they sweep the the Chiefs again this year. And uh I don't know. I I just I just have confidence that this team will get off to a faster start because or at least it'll look better because they don't when you look at those first six playoff teams, you can't come in here like we did against Tennessee last year saying, ah man, we can kind of figure things out. You don't have that luxury. So I think this start, it depends on how you look at it, but I think it will benefit the Broncos um getting the tough opponents right at the beginning, and hopefully they'll be better for it.

SPEAKER_03

Absolutely. Um, I actually just looked it up. Uh, right now, Vegas has us at a regular season win total at nine and a half. Nine and a half?

SPEAKER_05

Man, I might need to get in on that. I think that you know they should take that personally. That's a slap in the face. Nine and a half, really. Yeah, were we just a fluke last year?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, books are projecting a regression, right?

SPEAKER_02

Because they didn't believe it. Win after win after win. They didn't believe it, they didn't believe it, they didn't believe it, they didn't believe it.

SPEAKER_03

Nine and a half.

SPEAKER_05

That's crazy to me.

SPEAKER_03

Yep. And Denver has a plus 2,000 to win the Super Bowl.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, I think they're around like team 13 or 14 or something like that when it comes to the highest Super Bowl odds. Again, I think that that's crazy. Um, yeah, this is gonna be a good year. This is the first year we've had since Peyton Manning, where the expectation legitimately is Super Bowl. So yeah, uh, that's it's gonna be fun watching the team this year with that in mind.

SPEAKER_03

Um, odds makers. I actually am now just reading this. Kansas City, 10 and a half wins.

SPEAKER_05

What they won six games last year, exactly. They have a whole new secondary, bunch of young guys.

SPEAKER_03

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_05

Man, that's crazy. That's crazy. I might have to take the over on Denver and the under on KC.

SPEAKER_03

Yep. And so if you're you're listening or watching and you're betting person, better go hit those books now.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, for real.

SPEAKER_03

Um, so the bettings were like Kansas City 10 and a half, Denver's tied with the Chargers at nine and a half, and the Raiders are five and a half.

SPEAKER_06

Okay, huh?

SPEAKER_05

Chargers, man. I don't even think about them.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. As you said earlier, Chargers gonna charger.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, that's what they're gonna do.

SPEAKER_03

As is the Raiders are gonna raid her.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, yeah. Sorry, Kubiak.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, that's that's gonna be rough for him.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, it's okay. He'll get out of there fast.

SPEAKER_03

Uh, so with that being oh, oh, I forgot about the preseason schedule. So because we play only eight home games, we get two um home games in the preseason. We get Green Bay, Minnesota at home, and then Atlanta on the road. Which is I find this very interesting that we have this because from all the years that I've been watching Broncos football, I'm always used to the preseason. Either we're playing San Francisco, Seattle, Arizona, Dallas on a blue moon. Um, and then there was another team. No, I think those were like really the four teams. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Well, San Francisco was a gentleman's agreement.

SPEAKER_03

Yes.

SPEAKER_02

And I think Peyton's not part of that gentleman group.

SPEAKER_03

That's fair.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, when we had Kubiac and and and Wade and you know, and Lynch went over to the nine, you know, these are guys that know each other, they trust, you know, players aren't gonna kill each other, and you know, it's it, you know, it's fine. Um, I don't think Peyton's part of that gentleman circle, and so it's like, hmm, yeah, we're done with that. So, you know, it's light beer, so you know. It's light beer.

SPEAKER_03

Um, so at Atlanta, Green Bay, Minnesota, man, that's just that's very that's a very interesting preeseason slate there. Um especially that last one with Minnesota.

SPEAKER_02

You probably well gonna see starters in game one or two.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, that's what I was thinking.

SPEAKER_02

And he might play star. I mean, he usually plays starters in game three, but you know, he's not in charge of the offense this year, um, supposedly. So, you know. Okay.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, so these are teams that have so we have they have Michael Penix, Jordan Love, and I guess JJ McCarthy is starting in Minnesota.

SPEAKER_05

Kyler Murray. I think it'll be Kyler.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, Kyler Murray. Oh my gosh. I totally forgot he went to Minnesota.

SPEAKER_05

I know, I know. It's weird. We'll see how he does.

SPEAKER_03

And and here comes again the Kelly Iroll.

SPEAKER_05

Right.

SPEAKER_02

He'd make a lot more money and be happier if he had to stuck to his promise, but whatever.

SPEAKER_03

You know what? I I think since we've brought this is the second time it's been brought up. Um, Kelly, why don't you tell David your beef with Kyler Murray?

SPEAKER_02

I was a very big Oakland A's fan when I was a girl. I got to be an Oakland A's fat girl. Um and he promised and signed a contract to play for the A's, and then he reneged on it to be an Arizona Cardinal of all things. So, you know, I just it's it's a personal beef. He's my mortal enemy. He doesn't know I exist, I don't care. I can hate him from afar, and that's what I'm gonna do.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, it's gonna be short.

SPEAKER_02

And I don't, I'm not even an A's fan anymore because they left me. Um, but you know, he still broke a promise, so that's right.

SPEAKER_05

You gotta hold him to it.

SPEAKER_03

When Kelly holds beef, it's oh yeah, my grudges are forever. Yeah, it's a big thing with her.

SPEAKER_02

I mean, the only thing that's gonna stop some of my grudges is you know dementia, which not only I don't get. But that's the only thing, that's the only thing that's gonna make me make me let him go is if my brain suddenly doesn't remember him. But I remember. I remember Kelly Jane remembers.

SPEAKER_03

I I think at some point I'm gonna create a meme um and have your face on the pepperage farm first guy. Kelly remembers.

SPEAKER_01

Kelly remembers.

SPEAKER_03

Um, shout out to Jay over here. Oh wow, look at this crossover.

SPEAKER_04

Thanks for tuning in, Jay.

SPEAKER_03

Um, on that note, any final thoughts on this offseason before Kelly and I close it up for season seven? Oh, go ahead.

SPEAKER_05

This is something that going back to the draft, the way that I've kind of compared the Tyler O'Neadem pick is to like Pat Bryant when he was picked. Because like I studied the offensive guys a little bit more just because that's like more fun, obviously. But I like I really liked Pat Bryant last year, and I was like, you know, he'd be a really good fit for like what the Broncos need. Um, but then when he was picked in the third round, people are like, What? Who is this guy? We could have on my mock drafts, we could have got him in the sixth round, you know. This is but I was like, Man, he's such a good player, and um I think Tyler Onyedum, he was kind of picked in that same mold of Pat Bryant, but for the defense, so that's my selling point. If you like Pat Bryant, maybe you'll like Tyler O'Nedim. So yes, yes, put it on t-shirt, Kelly.

SPEAKER_02

I got so much, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Like that's now I think two t-shirts this season.

SPEAKER_02

This is what funny. I come up with the one-liners, like I've got, you know, I I come up with the catchphrases.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, J.R. Smith, you got a JR Smith it.

SPEAKER_02

You got a JR Smith it. If a defense can predict you, a defense can defend you. The only thing that stops a beef is dementia. You know, on the merch. Uh uh. Uh what level is stupid? Michael Crabtree level is stupid.

SPEAKER_03

Antonio Brown.

SPEAKER_02

Antonio Brown. Antonio Brown level is stupid.

SPEAKER_03

And over your big one right here. There are what?

SPEAKER_02

Three phase well, that's not mine. There are three phases of the games, not mine, but it is football law number two.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I think that's what I think that's the second like um quote. And it's funny because it always it happened last time when we had a guest as well. So your one-liners, like maybe we should need more guests so that way you can have more one-liners.

SPEAKER_05

I'm like trying to figure out how I can put this in a video or whatever. But you know, like Drake dropped like three albums this weekend or whatever, and they're like all horrible. But he's got like this one line. Yeah, he's like getting blown up because I guess he just dropped all these to like get out of his contract or whatever. So yeah, but he's got like this one line that's like, I'm out of sodas, I might just walk to Circle K by myself or something like that. And I'm like, that's a great one-liner. I might just walk to Circle K by myself. You know, I gotta figure out how to include that in there.

SPEAKER_02

That's read that's regional though. Because where I lived in where I lived in Texas, it would be the conico.

SPEAKER_05

See, you know, I I live in San Antonio now.

SPEAKER_02

Here it's 7-Eleven.

SPEAKER_05

7-Eleven. Yeah, Circle K.

SPEAKER_02

Circle Circle K is really regional because you know, so yeah, yeah, he should have done a more trip here. Yeah, yeah, quick trip, QT, or you know, oh my god, if he if he's in the right area, if he makes it Bucky's.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, Bucky's is the best, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

So yeah, he should, he should have gone more a little less regional, and it yeah, it would blow up.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, but Circle K. Shout out to Circle K.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, and if Circle K's got money, they need to, you know, they need to put it on a shirt and on the koozies and on the you know on the popcorn buckets.

SPEAKER_03

Oh yeah. Yeah, we only have Wawa and Sheets here.

SPEAKER_02

Which um who's attached to all your gas stations?

SPEAKER_03

Oh no, we we have we have Seneca. We have Seneco.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_05

What about Tim Hortons? Does it get down to no doesn't Pennsylvania?

SPEAKER_02

Right? Wawa and Tim Hortons is coffee, right?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, Wawa's coffee. It's like now it's become like this super where you can like buy food and things like that, too. Oh gosh, I I had a feeling I forgot one. Here's one for you. Midwest come and go.

SPEAKER_05

Come and go. That's the wildest gas station name.

SPEAKER_03

That is. I think I passed by, I think there is one here in Pennsylvania, and I saw it, and I'm like, um, someone did not think this through like thoroughly. Oh, yes, they did.

SPEAKER_05

They thought that's why where are you gonna stop?

SPEAKER_02

If you have the choice between sunko and the come and go, where are you gonna go?

SPEAKER_05

You could have spelled it c o M E.

SPEAKER_02

That's why I know that's why you know it was thought through. Because if they had missed if they had spelled it the correct way, C-O-M e, you'd go, oh, that's just someone, you know, English maybe language, they're not up on the slang, but they spelled it with that K instead of that C because they know they knew what they were doing, they knew.

SPEAKER_03

I'm sorry, I think I mispronounced it. I think it's pronounced Sinoco, I think is what I'm thinking of.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, that makes sense.

SPEAKER_03

But yeah, I do know that there is uh C U M and Go around here too. I'm like, oh gosh, this is they thought it through. Because I walked into there and I'm like, wait a minute, I'm reading it, I'm like, wow, he really did that.

SPEAKER_02

I mean, it works, doesn't it? People talk about it.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah?

SPEAKER_02

How many Midwest gas stations have you been to, Jay?

SPEAKER_05

Oh, me? Sorry.

SPEAKER_02

Well, I was talking to Jay since he brought it up.

SPEAKER_06

Oh, I thought you said Jay.

SPEAKER_02

But we've all heard of it. Right? Like I've spent maybe a total of five days of my life in the Midwest, but I've heard of I've heard of that gas station.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Oh boy. How did we get to gas stations? Oh, because the day.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, my one liners.

SPEAKER_05

That's right. I brought it up.

SPEAKER_02

Can't it happen? Yeah. If you just fast forward through some of the podcasts and what you landed on, there are no guarantees.

SPEAKER_03

I might have this into like a YouTube short, just this whole conversation right here.

SPEAKER_06

Yes.

SPEAKER_03

Like talking about gas stations and can uh Drake no Drake CDs that or Drake albums, I should say. Drake albums plus Gas stations equals chaos.

unknown

Yes.

SPEAKER_02

That's why we need football.

SPEAKER_03

We don't know we don't we don't know how to hold I mean yesterday like the whole the finance guy like all we talked about was football while he you know put in numbers and I'm like okay this quickest you know oh gosh this is what I talk about I don't uh why world events the the direct happened um oh there was one more big news I totally forgot about before we go um the Broncos extended George Payton oh yeah oh yeah yeah good good deal yeah we win a lot so let's keep it going yeah the the last couple years with Bo really pulled him out of the hole yes yes finding Sean Payton and letting Sean Payton take control uh yeah kind of pulled him out of the hole if if Bo Nix and Sean Payton had not been successful he would not have been extended I guarantee it oh absolutely and so now he is with the team until at the latest 2030 is is is the Kardashian still Dayton our our race driver dude owner oh um I know you're talking about I Hamilton uh Lewis is it oh yeah Lewis Hamilton see okay oh yeah um I need someone to end that yeah so as of oh did they write it yeah so he's dating Kim Kardashian but I just the first the first article that pops up is Kanye West concocting a manipulative plan to break them up good yeah go Kanye uh homeworkers side chicks bat bat single whatever it is go break that shit up let's go gosh could you imagine if they're sailed together week one Taylor Swiss and Bardashian I don't want they've already ruined basketball the carcass in single handedly added in the downfall of the NBA get them the fuck away from my NFL team and now more chaos now now and this one will definitely be clipped and shared on the uh youtube as well um before say that again I said I made the dogs next door start barking as I got that videos open well before it gets any chaotic do we have any final thoughts that are football related I should say that is football related okay that is okay well I was thinking it was more like celebrity but I argue that is football related fair enough that is a minor owner of our team messing with with the plastic dolls that are the Kardashians who have ruined at least four NBA careers that's fair that's honestly fair and they're moving on to the NFL because there's no one left in the NBA that will touch them I mean if we could just move if we can find a way to move them to maybe base uh no maybe not base let's get them away from all sports soccer soccer makes so much more money guys soccer that's perfect all right oh sorry david david's like okay the the the term went way left I wish I had jokes to add but I don't it's all good there's got to be like my silicone and mile hot doesn't doesn't mix right something something it was that's right that's right some hope right the silicone and the in the high altitude and and something anything right it'll make it it'll make it expand and explode in them right like a like a helium balloon the higher up you go oh yeah that's true yes yeah it's dangerous someone get that knowledge into the Kardashian okay researching now um I'll do that off screen now um on that note David thank you so much for joining us um we appreciate your yeah um before you before we do go um why don't you tell a little bit of why don't you tell our viewers um any projects you're working on where they might find you um I did actually realize that I was not subscribed to your YouTube channel so I actually corrected that right before I came here.

SPEAKER_05

Well fantastic I'm subscribed to your YouTube channel now so we're all on the same page it's fantastic um if you're listening from uh you know Spotify come over to YouTube sometime that's where you'll find me David Talks Broncos for daily broncos content and crazy ideas and David Talks buffs if you like Car Auto Buffalo's uh college football so uh got those two channels going tapping anytime and um yeah would would love for anybody to stop by so guys uh really appreciate you having me on this was a lot of fun and uh always happy to come back on again okay oh absolutely uh we're gonna hold you to that yes do it hold any any um guest that says that we always hold them to it that sounds great we'll talk again sounds good all right Kelly ready to close this out uh sure uh um I don't quite have the the outro memorized um so uh as always you can find me on twitter at I love to lead you can find me at tiefly guy15 you can find us both at the same time at in underscore com underscore pleat underscore two because there's two of us um all those DMs are open you are welcome to send challenge flags song requests we didn't do a lot of bad karaoke last season um so if that's something you missed you know send us some songs um questions comments concerns guest requests um I beg of you to be polite and to stay closed if sliding into someone's DM is not for you you can send us an email uh in underscore com underscore pleat at outlook.com um we're also available uh we're also on instagram in underscore com underscore pleat underscore two um which um hopefully will be more active um there um youtube we are um gosh you now I'm losing it we are live every Wednesday as you oh perfect it's scrolling right now every Wednesday it'll be starting in August at 9 15 my time 8 15 central 715 mountain um yeah mountain time where most where most of you are or 6 15 kelly time um and if you cannot tune in at that time because I know that's usually a weeknight so it's a little late for some of us you can always um sorry we're always available at least 24 hours afterwards on Apple Spotify basically wherever it is that you listen to your podcasts um and leave uh leave a review comments because as much as we love to do this podcast we're going into our eighth season coming up um if there's if you don't if you have some changes in mind and you don't tell us we cannot help you just keep that in mind who knows maybe we'll have more of these random moments about gas stations and plastic dolls and things like that oh yeah I mean go listen to seven years worth seven years worth and who knows maybe we'll get some merch going up if we have something that's funny.

SPEAKER_02

To be fair if you want quick concise podcasts are fifth years the season to go listen to um because those stayed right around our goal time of 45 minutes.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah we lost it sucks yeah we're gonna lose next week okay great bye see you later if you want quick concise and no tangents the the fifth season is the one to go listen to but all the other ones um there's just no guarantee where where where the talk takes us exactly um and on that note um that this will conclude season seven otherwise known as the downway season and it was a lot of fun uh thanking all the guests that jumped on thanking to all of you this is our first full year finishing up with um YouTube um to going live and so we will be back on YouTube again next year and I expect to see a lot more of you here yes but on that note and until then and until August go Broncos well usually all year round it is go broncos go broncos so and see you guys stop the Kardashians right bye Kardashians thanks for listening to the Incomplete podcast tune in next time for more Broncos news from two of your favorite fans be sure to subscribe to the podcast on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and share the podcast with your friends and family. Go Broncos

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